Hi --

Is it OK to link to this image from the VMTN Virtual Machine Center at http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/? I will link it under "Developer/Pre-release Operating Environments."

Thanks,
John

I have a decent bit of bandwidth right now, so I don't see any problem with it for now. If you want to mirror it, as far as I know, the HaikuOS guys won't have any problem with that and in fact would love the exposure. Please link to this page instead of the image file itself though as large amounts of traffic could cost me a lot of money and that's what I have Google's ads for ;)

Try the "Developer Edition" of BeOS. You can find it if you do a search on Google. It's about 450mb, but probably not something your employer wants to deal with since it's in the grey area of legality WRT IP law. Zeta can be purchased at YellowTab.com.

Personally, I have no experience getting either of them to work in VMWare, but IIRC I got BeOS DevEd to run inside of Microsoft's VirtualPC software a while ago. You might want to check that out. Zeta should be a lot better and if you do a Google search you can find a free LiveCD that YellowTab released to promote 1.1. If you can boot that in VMWare Player or VMWare WS 5.5 then you should be set.

One last thing. HaikuOS is still too far in development for you to use for a development environment. Your best bet would be to stick to Zeta and code to BeOS R5 or R5.1/Dano (if you can find it) standards. The VMX files can easily be created if you use the wizard in VMWare Workstation or, presumably, the Server edition.

I'm looking for a way to run BeOS R5 or Zeta 1.1 for development in Qemu or VMWare at work where we have XP. Is it possible to just use the image from the CD from Zeta or R5 when using Qemu?

I don't know how to make the *.vmx files any help greatly appriciated! (looking at the Haiku shell right now)

Thanks Mike, I have both Zeta 1.1 and BeOS R5 Pro on CD-ROM. I will try to install R5 in VMware server (my question actually was how to create a Vmware (vmx) image) since it's closer to Haiku and could generate less trouble. I find that YT has modified the BeOS in such a way I feel that it isn't the 'real' BeOS anymore, which is a negative thing IMO.

Mike, do you know what gfx card VMware emulates? I have grayscale 640x480 R5 Pro : ( + I have to disable multiproccesing during BeOS boot otherwise I get an Vmware error! Haiku works much better (faster) in this regard and is in colour : )
There might be troubles with the system time, how does(n't) that work?

Shall I post the vmx file?

Next I'll try Zeta.

No clue. If you open up the VM properties in VMWare, it might tell you what graphics card it is trying to use. I think at one point it was some Savage chipset, like a Savage S3. As I said, hunt down a copy of the semi-bootleg "Developer Edition" because that contains a lot of new drivers that third party developers wrote after Be went belly up in 2001. That will be your best shot. It's hacked up update to BeOS R5 Personal, IIRC, and it works a lot better than BeOS R5 Pro would on new hardware, and is probably the only one that would really work well in VMWare. Here's the BeBits page for the Developer Edition if you're interested.

Beyond that, I think you may be on your own. I haven't used the standard BeOS in about 5 years now, and haven't tried BeOS in VMWare since around VMWare 4 beta. Sorry, but that's all I know.

Thanks. I'll try zeta and maybe BeOS max, I had BeOS dev ed 1.1 on my PC for very long but it had a couple of minor bugs + it wasn't updated for ages.

BeOS Dev Edition was last updated in October 2005

Huh that one from beosonline? I will check it out.

About the gfx card, I've managed to get Vesa? or something. I selected the fail-safe video mode and 1024x768x16 and it's a lot faster now. Not sure what the difference is. So BeOS R5 Pro, Zeta 1.0 and Haiku all work pretty decent.

Now there are VMW_tools or something called like that on bebits (search for vmware and you'll find it) The question is, how can one mount other disks from within VMware server? You can add HW, I haven't tried mounting CDROM's, but my usb stick doesn't show up to be mounted.

I actually managed to make a network connection via NAT. We have a proxy here which asks for user+passwd. Unfortunately the Firefox which comes with zeta 1.1 always returns the user,pass dialog empty, again and again and again. I'm sure my logins are correct (even copy pasted the password)...

Here's my suggestion for how to get around that. Create a new blank hard drive in VMWare and attach it as a second hard drive in the VM image. Then go to the disk management utility/preference (whichever it is) and initialize that mounted disk image as a BFS partition. That **should** work.

I don't know anything about the network problems, though. Your best bet would be to grab a new copy of Firefox if Zeta 1.1 is not already using the latest 1.5 build.

Hmmm usb won't show up but CDROM's do, guess that's one way to update : )

HaikuOS VMWare image update...

Just a quick announcement for those that want a little bit of BeOS action in their lives. I have been updating the HaikuOS VMWare image periodically, and the current version that I have up is the March 28th Sikosis build. At some point very soon now, I...

Drop me a line when you get a stable URL. I'd love to point to it from Virtual Appliances on VMTN at http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/. More people would probably love some BeOS action in their lives -- I know I would!

John