I have never tried to suggest that I am an optimistic for I am a cynical realist when it comes to humanity. I have for a while rejected any concept of the "innate goodness of man" in light of the obvious fact that humanity has been a brutal race as often, or even more so than it has generally conducted itself in an enlightened manner. It is with this preface that I would like to make a small stand on the MySpace controversy.
My heart does not bleed for the teens who expose themselves in such a blatantly stupid manner on MySpace. Kids, if you provide a roadmap to your home, all of your contact information and semi-sexually explicit pictures of yourselves, you're throwing meat to starving wolves. This is not neverland, well, in the Peter Pan sense. This is the real world where evil men and women get off to that sort of thing. You have two choices: be dorky and safe, or be cool and risk getting involved in a sexual relationship with a Very Bad Person. It's your call, and quite frankly, I really don't care which you choose.
So now, why don't I care? Why am I so heartless toward these pure, wholesome children? It's because they're not children, not pure and not wholesome. A fourteen year old is four years away from being a legal adult. She's damn well old enough to understand the dangers of rape and to know what puts her at risk. The exposure of so much personal information from an eight year old is one thing; an eight year old is unequivocably just a child. A teen, however, is not a child, but a young adult had damn well better start behaving like one in public, especially when it comes to personal safety.
If you can't keep your miserable little brat safe, then keep them off my Internet. There, I said it. I don't pitty the girls who post sexually explicit pictures of themselves, and I'm not going to waste emotional energy assuming that they have deep scars because daddy didn't love them. I sure as hell do not want their competitive attempts to one up their female peers to get in the way of my enjoyment of the Internet by bringing out all of the soccer moms and Al Gore to regulate it until its safe for toddlers and useful only for the same.
Back when I was their age, ironically when few parents had ever used the Internet in 1995-1997, no parent allowed their kids to publish any of this information. They sure as hell would have revoked their kid's access if they posted any sexually explicit pictures of themselves. Fast forward to today. We've had eleven years for the Internet to be integrated into mainstream society and people in general are more naive than ever about it. So, I guess they'll blame it all on Apple and Microsoft for making it appear friendly with their flashy new interfaces. That's the way these people work.
**UPDATE** 12/4/2007: Y'all have finally done it. Comments are closed, and if you have a hard time understanding why, just check out the last few comments. If you have more than a handful of brain cells, the reason will be self-explanatory.
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Hell yea
People who are tryin to pre vent people to go on myspace are retarded. If the kid gets raped its their damn bad!
I sleeped with you sister / ??? AM I THE MAN ???
well if i did that an pulled this off then yes i am.
To blanketly say "If the kid gets raped its their damn bad!" is a horrible thing! That's the most fucked up thing I've heard today! Sure, some kids may get stupid online but to say it's their fault when someone takes advantage of the kids lack of judgement is terrible. I think you should sit down and talk to a young girl that has been raped and not told anyone about it. You will discover that she did not tell anyone because the thought the blame would be put squarely on her shoulders, which is what you just did. I hope you are not a parent with that shitty attitude. Shame on you pig fucker Erin!
thats much like saying if I get drunk out of my mind, and go driving and get into a wreck, that it wasnt my fault, and someone should counsel me on the dangers of drunk driving. its not my fault because I had a lack of judgement, is it?
YES!! IT IS!!
if i kill someone, it doesnt matter if i was underage, or made a bad decision, or had no judgement, I was still driving drunk! I should still be punished!
if you think that someone being stupid and getting taken advantage of is not their fault because they made a bad decision, take a look at any other stupid thing that someone has done. taking your ligic further is to say that if they made a bad decision, that its terrible to blame them.
it doesnt matter. they were still stupid. they still made a bad decision which any common sense or conscience would say "dont do this!"
you put the blame on their shoulders because they were stupid. Stupidity in decisions is not an excuse.
well, i agree with you. this is comment sense...u dont put personal stuff on the internet, especially with all of the predators going around. parents should always check their kid's page every once and a while...but don't over do it...if a child gets raped because she put personal stuff on there, its her fault, and its the parents fault...and it is also the rapers fault, but its mainly the teen...she shouldn't have done it...its stupid...and if u disagree with what im sayin, thats you, and ur crazy...
people blame it on my space but the reality is...is that its not my space,its the people! my space doesnt tell you to put the personal info you put it on there...its not required. my space doesnt demand you to...they tell you not to, but people seem to not care and do it anyways. like i said...my space isnt the problem...its the people. come on people seriously....dont be stupid!! you know what you are doing when u set up stuff like that!
I was right there with you until you began to hallucinate about a teenagers ability to make good choices. Most of time, if their parents have taken the time to raise them, they do make a decent decision. Out of fear, fear of what the parents will do should they find out. Sometimes however they do not, that's why they are not yet considered adults. For that matter there are some adults out there that have a very questionable decision making ability however that's an entirely different topic. Back to teenagers, growing up means making mistakes and learning from them, that's how one learns. Unfortunately some of those mistakes are tragic with tragic results. We do not let them drink, we do not let them drive, we do not let them vote. Why? Because they lack life experience and for the most part are idiots. As a society we don't believe they are ready to tackle the important decisions with far reaching results. Now having said that, I do NOT believe the internet should be regulated, certainly not by a bunch of politicians and activist groups. This is just a current form of stranger danger. Kids are going to either be naive or stupid in their choices, that doesn't change. Parents have to come up to speed. The streets weren't locked down to protect children, parents had to beat in the head with the rules they should provide. Don't talk to strangers, don't take candy, don't help look for a lost puppy.... Police officers came into the schools, we were inundated with commercials, it was an awareness campaign that continues today however needs to be broadened. Sadly, there will be some parents that still won't take the time and some children and teenagers that will pay the price. At no time will I say that a child or teenager should be blamed for the actions of some sick individual. They are not adults and can not be expected to rationalize like one. Punish the parents right along side the criminal but do not blame them for being kids and lacking rational adult decision making abilities. As for Al Gore and the soccer moms.. Just wait they'll find some other cause that needs them soon enough.
Except for the fact that we're talking about teens here and if they can rationalize why they shouldn't enter bad sections of town, they can rationalize they shouldn't be engaging in this sort of behavior. I have no problem putting some blame on the shoulders of a 13 year old girl who dresses like a whore and then proceeds to hook up with a grown man. If her parents have taught her anything about security, she has no excuse.
There have been studies that show that teenage brains, while not fully mature, are mature enough to grasp logic at this level. Let me ask you this, why is a 16 year old a child, but a 18 year old an adult? That's sophistry. Two years once you reach that age is not a fundamental difference in mental maturity. It's nothing like the difference between a 4 year old and a 6 year old.
The real reason that teenagers are so out of control today is that they aren't forced to grow up hard like most societies used to. Even this country used to do that in the 19th and early 20th centuries. The idea that a 15 year old was a child would have been laughed at. Not a full grown adult, but far more adult than child. Most juries back then would have had no problem executing a 14 year old for cold blooded murder, but today our 14 year olds are held to standards so low that we actually have to question whether they can comprehend cold blooded murder.
At 12 and 13, back in those dark ages of the mid 1990s, I was paranoid about online safety. None of my friends and I published any identifiable information online. Both sexes were like that. Girls didn't just go around posting a whole treasure trove of ways to get them online, even when they were at that age. Ask yourself why it is that my generation, the ones just out of college now, could understand that level of security, but today's generation can't. Why is it that we **understood** that bad people might come after us if we exposed ourselves literally and metaphorically online, but today's generation, which has more case studies, education on online safety, etc. acts like it's one big kindergarden playground?
That's why I have no sympathy. I'm still young enough to remember using the Internet and AOL back in 1994-1996, and to remember the online safety tips back then. I still remember the culture, and it was one where for the life of you, you did not use your real name if you were under 18. What I have noticed is that today's generation is getting brow-beaten with political correctness and is having its critical thinking skills actively undermined by the NEA goons in the pooblik edjoomakayshun sistum.
*Sigh* I guess it's just easier to write people in these age groups off as complete idiots and children, even though in a few years they become full adults that we'd trust to go off to war and represent us in armed conflicts that can shape American diplomacy. There is a difference between a 19 year old and a 13 year old, but too many people these days are willing to let that 13 year old wait until he or she is 17.99 years old to start acting like a man or a woman rather than say at 12-13 it's time to start using your head and stop being a child. Childhood should end well before a child is done with middle school.
Do you have something against female teens between the ages of 14-16 in particular or something? Because it seems like you just can't stand us. I am 16 years old and I think that a lot of what your saying is completely moronic. I will however admit that you do have some very good points. I think that honestly you are giving people way too much credit. What in your right mind makes you think that anyone who puts their phone number or address or revealing pictures on there is doing it with the intent of having someone come and kidnap them. They're not I guarentee you that when they do that they're not thinking hey I wonder if I can get someone to come and kidnap me today. We dont think about things like that infact most the time the thought NEVER crosses our mind. To me all you seem like is someone who lives at home in his moms basement && was a geek in highschool who couldn't get a girlfriend if his life depened on it. What is your excuse of why someone your age has time to sit at your computer and think about writing something like this?? Do you have just that much time on your hands? Well maybe you should go out and do something instead of criticizing these females. It seems to me like you have a grudge against us. We all make mistakes as I'm sure you did when you were our age. Sure some of them are bigger than others && dumber but everyone makes them. So why don't you get off that high pedestal && come down to reality. Stop trying to make it seem like it's all those kids faults that bad things happen to them. ITS NOT. Where are the parents in all this? Believe it or not parents have a big impact on what we do. If I didn't get in trouble from time to time for the things I do I wouldn't be doing very well in life. In fact its a safe bet that I would be doing all the wrong things. So how about you think about things like that next time you decide to go on a rant about something like this. What you need is to GET OVER YOURSELF!!!!
Even I generally give people more benefit of the doubt than that, Brittney. Do you really think I am so stupid as to extrapolate intelligence for a major chunk of 51% of the human race from the conduct of not even 0.001% of its members?
Or was it that this post hit a little too close to home for you? If you think my opinion of these girls is bad, just talk to my girlfriend about MySpace. Don't even get the older feminists I know started about how these girls' IQ are the h value in the limit calculation for the intellect of a box of bricks...
Wonderful example... skipping off into the bad side of town. I haven't a clue what you did as a teenage however the "bad side of town" was an adventure in my teenage life. Certainly we knew of the danger, that's why we went. We weren't suppose to go, our parents had made it abundantly clear that was a no no. *shrugs* Hey but they were old and boring. Fortunately in spite of our reckless behavior, well.... obviously we lived. The point being, we knew of the danger, we did not appreciate nor respect the potential danger. With life experience comes wisdom. For some that life experience is at a much higher price, we were lucky. You say you listened to those warnings from the older and wiser. Well that's great, a bit odd for a teenager but I'm sure it made your parents life a little easier.
The difference between a 16 year old and 18 year old would be two years worth of experience. I suspect there is probably a vast difference in those two years for me and you. I did a great deal of growing up during those two years. However in your previous paragraph you reference a 13 year old and there is a world of difference between 13 and 18. I have absolutely no problem with the idea of handing out punishment for bad behavior. I just have a real problem with the idea of a criminal handing out said punishment. To imply they get what they deserve at the hands of a predator speaks to your youth. As someone who is probably 15 years older then you and the mother of a teenage daughter, I can assure you that there is nothing my daughter could do that would justify, in my mind, her life being brutally ripped apart by a sick man that probably should be put to death.
As for the dark ages of the mid 1990's. This was all fairly new and people are generally leery of things they don't understand. For this current generation however, it's always been there. It's not new to them, they've grown up using a keyboard. Instant messaging and chatting has always been a form of communication for them. Like anything else, with time comes complacency. Look sadly, kids have been preyed upon in one way or another since the beginning of time. Because they're easy targets. When I was that age, it was the mall. The mall and arcades are where the predators chose to dine. S.S.D.D.
*L* I have to tell you, your generation was no different to us. We spent a great deal of time shaking our heads at you. We just knew you people were a waste of flesh and bone. Now it's very amusing to see your critical eye scrutinizing this generation. We were introduced to the infiltration of political correctness during your childhood. I must say, we did not hold out much hope. Seemingly your group was destined to be a bunch of babbling idiots that wouldn't have enough sense to come in out of the rain. We weren't allowed to criticize anything you did because God forbid it may hurt your feelings. Somehow during your generation it was decided sixth graders deserved a graduation. Are you kidding me? That still makes my eye twitch. Dare I say, hey you're sort of expected to pass the sixth grade. Oh and everyone all the sudden became a something American. Again, political correctness. The good news is that in you, I see it wasn't a total loss. In my old age, I think your idea's lack some life experience for temping purposes but you're not the thoughtless idiots we expected. I suppose there's hope for this generation as well. Don't be too quick to judge and certainly not sentence. Anytime someone is hurt at the hands of a criminal is tragic, no matter how foolish they're behavior may have been.
I thank you for allowing me to babble on and for posing the thought provoking site. Now I shall take my daughter, *pointing to the previous post* yep she's mine, and we will leave you be.
Oh and for the record, I do check her myspace for content. Ain't that right Brit?
Did you ever think that the reason why these teens don't take safety seriously is because of that kind of attitude? The reason that I never went to those sections of town was that I had former federal agents for parents and my dad also was a street cop during racial integration. When you hear some of their stories, it puts an even better perspective on things. I cannot agree with this, however:
"Anytime someone is hurt at the hands of a criminal is tragic, no matter how foolish they're behavior may have been."
So you think that it is as tragic, for a girl to be raped after getting drunk and going back to a drunk man's apartment as it is for a girl who was coming home from a long day of work and then got raped? Personally, I find little tragedy at all in the former. Irresponsible behavior that anyone in their right mind should know is irresponsible, that brings one into contact with violent criminals is a whole different story.
As I have said before, you don't have to feel sorry for the victim to feel that the perp should be punished. Some girls actually like the feeling of being forced into it. I've known some that liked men who didn't take no for an answer, though I stayed the hell away from them because they weren't eccentric, just nuts. What the theoretical rapist did was inherently wrong, regardless of the circumstances, but the nature of the victim is always different because the circumstances are always different.
To me, it's not very tragic when a 15 year old gangbanger with no parents in the ghetto gets shot in a gang fight, but it is terribly tragic when an aspiring 15 year old with no parents gets shot through a window or something. Why? They made different choices. The former chose to put himself in harms way, the latter did not. It is entirely different when someone does what is right and still gets hurt.
At some point you have to cut the bullshit and say that if they can't understand any of this by around that age, then what CAN they understand? Why not just forget about all of these criminal laws and let them get off with a slap on the wrist the way you would a 6 year old, since clearly they're not much more capable of logical thought 7-9 years later?
Oh well, to each their own. I never saw a point in being rebellious most of the time. Never had a reason to, actually. My parents expected me to start behaving like an adult, not a child, when I was a teen. That was a major reason why I was able to survive one of my college's most difficult majors while dealing with 2 terrible roommates, one of whom was a jihadi from Pakistan (lovely semester that was), my parent's divorce and my dad's attempts to bankrupt me. Believe it or not, forcing kids to grow up as they reach their early teens is actually good for them. You don't need to be a parent to understand that.
I agree and disagree at some point to all the comments....
If a young teenager is stupid enough to put their actuall name, number, adress etc. then its their fault. I understand the point people say "that the child was taken advantage of" but if your child or friend was dumb enough not to talk to anyone about their situation or if they were going to meet someone off of "MYSPACE" or any other website it is their own fault. As mentioned a teenager is well aware of the dangers around them, if they dont then there's sumthing wrong. Its understabdable if a younger child was put into danger but a younger child wouldnt know how to work a comp would they?
It is the fault of the child if they are revealing themselves to people they dont know!
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I feel the pain of those who have been put into danger from MYSPACE or any other website, so don't think i have no heart or wateva!
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i know,If someone gets raped thats thier problem
It's never right when someone gets hurt, but there is a level of stupidity when you have to blame them for it. My favorite example against those who say that all victims are the same is the parent who jumped over all of the safety fences at the zoo and got mauled by the tiger about 10 years ago or so. Is she the same sort of victim as a toddler who gets mauled by a pitbull who ran after her in her own yard? Of course not. The woman caused her victimization by not even trying to protect herself from a predatory creature.
I dont agree or disagree with a lot of opinions on this post though there are some good points. and i'm not judging here, just stating an opinion. So, it's the internets fault, websites fault, it's the governments fault, it's the kids fault, it's the parents fault. all ignorant bullshit! the trouble is that we live in a particularly dumb ass and hoe-ish culture that would allow stupid teens, stupid parents, and evil sick pedophile fucks to use (or not use) the internet as an actual form of meeting people. the net is fake. everything on it is artificial.
As an adult who never set up an email address until 2001, i would never imagine putting personal info on a website for my "so called" friends to get in touch with me. But i'm an adult. it's hard enough to keep real friends in real time than to try to play bullshit "send me a pic" games and lies on the internet. personally, i think that posting a personals ad, making a website dedicated to ones own self importance, a blog filled with useless information, whatever, is just pathetic way to meet actual people. I've done it and have erased them all because they are a waste of time. almost everybody I know has one, (all adults) and they always say, "give me your email address". why? you're talking to me right now. my email is personal and all you're going to do is send me junk mail, chain letters, and irritating forwarded mail. and it's just damn sad that people put their deepest darkest desires and wants on a computer. why would you want to do that? (publish a book or something.) there's virtually no human connection there. you wait days seconds minutes of your life hoping that someone will get in touch with you. why? when there are hundreds of people out there in the really real world for you to meet. I've know grown ass men that have abused the net and grown ass women who have done the same. they tell you that they've met someone on the net one day, then next week they shamefully tell you a horror story about said person and it's lame and disgusting. these people are no longer a part of my life. realistically, it takes a very long time to make friends. real good friends that you would want to let into your life, and you still have to watch them carefully because a lot of people are crazy, sick and bored and get off on ruining other peoples lives. the world is beautiful, but it's still dangerous. people need to get real. stay safe and get real.
As a parent of little kids, (girls and boys),the profiles on the net is a no no. do your homework from the book and if you need to use the net, you'd better believe i'll be (helping) watching you. i tell my kids, your friends, i want to meet them and their parents and i want to know where they live and what they do. i want to know who lived in my neighborhood, who my neighbors are. i want to look in their eyes. i want them to see me watching my kids and my neighbors kids play safely in their own neighborhood. the fat creepy shut-in dude that only comes out at night always gets a "hello, how are you" from me. he usually runs from me. (i'm watching you dude) the disgusting thugs with the obnoxious music and smells coming from their cars, driving around my kids school, i want them to see me watching them as they drive away. parents, watch your kids! i'm watching mine.
finally, no one under no circumstance deserves to get abused, assaulted or raped. no one. yeah, to all the people who thinks it's the victims fault, just wait until you're raped or hurt and we'll see what kind of song you sing afterwards. i feel a great swell of pity for anyone who even attempts to try that with me or my family.
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but you all have really good points, i'll give ya that
Oh come on, can't we be a little consistent here? If you're going to use bastardized English, go all the way! Damn, you kids are underachievers.
You guyz make me laff....
My personal favorite:
Da1NOnLYBB Says:
April 18th, 2006 at 5:41 pm
THIS MY SPACE CONTROVERSY IZ VERY STUPID…YES IT DOZ OPN DOORz 4o PPL OF AL AGz 2TLK PERSONALLY N MABY SEXUALY….BU ITZ NO DIFFRNT DEN ALL OTHA SITz….DIZ 1z JUS MOE POPULR N GOTz MOE POBBLISITY N DATz Y PPL R MAKIN IT SUCH A HUGE DEAL….I MY SELF AM ON MY SPACE N DO ASSOCIATE W/OTHA PPL….N I M PRETTY YOUNG….BU I M NOT AZ STUPID AZ 2BELIVE PPL ON DA OTHA SCREEN….DY AZ I CUD SAY NETIN WE WANT…I CUD EVN SAY I LUV AL OF Uz WHO R READIN DIS N UR SO GORGEOUS N ECT…..IF PPL FAL 4o DEz FIBz…N R DAT GOLOBOL….SHAME ON DEM…..BU ITz JUS SAD 4o DA PPL WHO DO DEz TINGz 2INNOCNT TEENz N FOOL DEM…DAT DY REALLY HAV NO LYFE N LIK 2PLY AROUND W/PPL…..DATz AL ON DEM.
My dear son, it's called a formal education. How can you expect to prove a point when you make it practically impossible to understand what you're trying to say. I suggest that you invest a few dollars into Sylvan Learning Center...or maybe just Kindtergarden for starters. Maybe you'll find that "lyfe" will be a lot easier when you can express a complete thought.
Respectfully yours,
The "BLANKETLY" honest.
^haha..just had to, "pete".
LaurenLouise,
I am a tad vexxed as to whether I should write up a post highlighting your response or make it part of a FAQ. Either way it should be entitled, "the consequences of a McMySpace education."
I'm not quite 23 and I look at many of the kids born into the "internet generation" and shudder. I was twelve or so when my family got real Internet access in late 1995 and yes, we use "lol, wtf, roflol," etc., but at least we could form coherent paragraphs. It's no wonder why we have problems with kids and online safety these days.
What worries me is that these kids and teens can rattle these IMspeak sentences off without any thought. I don't even want to think about what that says about their grasp of the English language. At least it does explain why so few can pick up any foreign language. If you can't handle your own language more or less like an adult by your teenage years, you sure as hell aren't going to be able to pick up a different vocabulary and syntax structure.
Cuello chupa testiculos... more or less.
I went to JMU, which happens to be one of Virginia's better universities. Let me tell you, it isn't a whole lot different from high school unless you go into a technical or very hard art major like music or animation.
You ought to strongly consider taking two years at a community college to get all of your geneds out of the way, then transfer to the four year college you want to attend. Just make sure that the transfer program is good between the two institutions and you'll be fine. If you take those geneds at the four year university, you will pay three times more for the same watered down crap. Not only that, but community colleges are generally less prone to have less immature people going to them because they don't have the maturity crutch of living on campus at a CC.
Things like that MySpace poster's comment should make you realize that as bad as homeschooling could be, at least only the parents are paying for it. It can't possibly be any worse than most public schools. Don't believe the hype about the few good schools. You will be amazed at how many people don't have to work to get into college. I had a 3.82 overall weighted GPA, 3.6 unweighted GPA overall, 4.0 junior, 4.2 senior, 1270 SAT I, 1390 SATII, got three 3s on the AP exams (both English, and Comparative Politics which wasn't even taught at my school) and two fives (US History and Government). The recruiting material said that my university was admitting students who were scoring on about the same level or higher. Then, I met one of my former peers on campus one day. She's white, middle class and a cheerleader and got a sub 3.0 overall GPA and less than a 1000 on the SAT. Don't believe the hype, the system is dysfunctional from kindergarden through most of college.
I'll be looking forword to that post, Mike.
I am an 18 year old high school senior and I hear it everyday throughout the halls. I think to myself, "Maybe it's just juvenility commonly found among high school teenagers.", but then again...these people are going to be attending COLLEGE next year. It's frightening that my fellow classmates are, one day, going to be doctors, scientists, and lawyers. These same people who can hardly spell puncuation, rather than practice it.
I appreciate reading your posts, as I can see your education has paid off. I find your subjects and opinions rather interesting and I greatly acknowledge your use of grammar and vocabulary.
I am impassioned about leaving high school and moviing on to college and every time I hear a dumbfounded football player get told he "played good" at the last game, makes me even more fervent.
I also agree with your idea on the conception of foreign languages. I recenetly witnessed a high school senior in my Spanish 4 class ask our instructor how to say "That sucks balls." in Spanish....
I pray to God for the intelligence of our children and theirs to come.
These kids now are not an naive as parents/adults think or would like to think. My God, just look at these myspace profiles and what they're talking about and the images they're putting up. They know exactly what time it is, come on. I have to agree that if you throw chum into shark infested waters, don't be suprised when, drumroll....SHARKS APPEAR! Millions of scantily clad teenage girl that could pass for 24 engaging in lesbian/sexually charged activities posted on the interntet for all to see. What do you think will happen?!? Parents have to be more aware and unfortunately in today's world accept that your sweet innocent little angel might, well, not exactly be just that. Sorry.
Why would we trust someone to carry a gun at eighteen into battle, an action that could deeply influence our foreign policy (they shoot a target that they're not supposed to, they create a PR nightmare) when they cannot even be trusted to make basic safety decisions at fourteen and know sexual right and wrong by heart at sixteen? I want to slap these teens and say that they're not children anymore so cut the crap, we know that they know what they're doing is wrong and why it's wrong just like any young adult would. After all, when are they supposed to figure out that posting these pictures is stupid and morally wrong, fifty?
A fourteen year-old girl is not a legal adult. Therefore, she is not entitled to the same rights as a legal adult. In other words what I am trying to say is that she can not vote, smoke, drink, or they can not consent.
The predator is the one who is held responsible according to the law. The only one's to blame for not stopping this are the parents. A child can not be held legally responsible for giving out his or her own personal information.
In a court of law, legislation beats common sense. Remember that before you go and blame a fourteen year-old that is not considered, for lack of a better word, "smart" by law.
Also in my own personal opinion, if I may add, teenagers are NOT aware of many of the dangers around them. They are too busy caught up thinking they are invincible or thinking that what they hear on the news won't happen to them that they miss many things. I know from experience. I see them everyday. I'm one of them.
Sure, it is stupid of them to do such things, but they aren't the one's we should focus on bashing. These victims just go to show that there are sick people out there that, given the oppurtunity, would do something like this.
The fourteen year-olds are just victims who could have prevented their victimization from the predators that deserve to be caught and seriously helped.
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For thousands of years, fourteen year olds were raising and caring for families successfully. What's happened since then to retard their ability to behave as adults?
I'm not quite 23 myself. I do have a decent memory of being 14 and 15 and thinking that some of these girls I knew were dumb as hell. Nice girls that were my friends were putting themselves at risk.
I am not saying that the predator isn't responsible, I'm saying that responsibility can be more than 100%. It is possible for two parties to be equally responsible, but in different ways, for a victimization without shifting the blame. It's hard for most Americans to consider, but Europe doesn't seem to have a hard time. European judges, for example, tend to consider how to punish a rape in part on what the woman did to expose herself to it. A non-virgin who's frollocking in a bad section of town frequently gets mocked by European judges.
What I favor is holding these teens accountable as adults. That's the only way to make them ready to be full adults at 18. I don't know if you're 18 yet, but for me it was no big deal. Then again my parents expected me to be 80% of the way to being a real adult by the time I was about 15-16 years old so your mileage may vary.
Teens these days will be our new generation, and if they can't even be safe or smart about these stupid things, then we're screwed. A 14 year old girl that exposes inappropiate picture of her in a short skirt with her thong sticking out and a tube top is most likely to get a 40-year old man lookin at her, and now there are all these girls just adding the 40-year old guys. i mean it's called common sense, if you're just trying to gain as many friends as possible then be my guest. but later on you can't complain that you "didn't know" or "after you added him you found out he was older" or any of this crap we hear. why don't you delete them then? kids NEED to be responsible about this, and if they don't then i frankly do agree. they deserve it. i'm not saying they DESERVE to be raped or sexually harassed, abused, etc. but honestly, they had it coming. there are so many things to do that can make myspace so much safer, like not allowing people to see your site if they're not your friend (only available to younger people) NOT adding someone, if you do add them and later you find them suspicious you can delete them. And it's not just myspace, there's xanga, friendster, vampirefreaks, tagged, hi5 and SO much more. so i agree if you can't be responsible, then you had it coming.
Okay, for you retarded imbeciles who WrIT3 lYke DisZ, get a life. YoU'Re probably one of the morons we're talking about in the first place.
I hate myspace and they should get rid of it to protect and promote the safety of kids today. They should'nt have to wait till someone is killed. It's gone far enough and needs to be stopped before it gets any worse. You dont like what I'm saying then ignore it.
I hate myspace and they should get rid of it to protect and promote the sfety of kids today. They should'nt have to wait till someone is killed. It's gone far enough and needs to be stopped before it gets any worse. You dont like what I'm saying then ignore it.
anonamous Says:
June 13th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
I hate myspace and they should get rid of it to protect and promote the safety of kids today. They should’nt have to wait till someone is killed. It’s gone far enough and needs to be stopped before it gets any worse. You dont like what I’m saying then ignore it.
Yeah, well maybe I will as soon as you learn to spell dearie. It's not only myspace, and like before the kid needs to take care of himself. Also where are the parents in all of this? They should atleast somewhat be watching what they're kids are doing. Like this girl that's trying to sue myspace right now. She as well as her parents are suing myspace because she was assaulted by someone she met on myspace. Here's the catch. She LIED about her age and said she was 19 when really she's only 14 or 16. What now? Some 40 year old guy that lives in his mom's basement will die infront of the computer because he's on it constantly. Naturally they'll sue Bill Gates right? Wrong. Take control of your own actions.
y0 dOODz I TINK DAT MYSPACE IS DA SHEEET YO! I LUV ALLA DEM HOTTEEEZ WIT DEM BODEEEZZZ. I SKEET EVRY DAY TO MYSPACE YOOOO. VIVA LA TOM
y0 dOODz I TINK DAT MYSPACE IS DA SHEEET YO! I LUV ALLA DEM HOTTEEEZ WIT DEM BODEEEZZZ. I SKEET EVRY DAY TO MYSPACE YOOOO. VIVA LA TOM
Finally, someone who has the same outlook on this whole myspace controversy. If you put personal information out there, chances are you're going to get hit on by a predator and attacked. If you're dumb enough to fall for it, that's what is going to happen. I do have a myspace, but I have it set to private and I don't accept any friend requests unless I know the person. That's the probably with some myspace users. They are more concerned about how many "friends" they have rather than their own safety. I don't blame myspace for any attacks children get, I blame the kids and their parents. Block myspace if you have kids who are under 16 and don't know who to use the internet properly. Monitor what your child does on the interent. I'm not trying to sound cold-hearted, but seriously, how can you go and blame myspace if someone puts personal information out there? Did myspace force them to do it? Did myspace tell them to do? Did myspace promote it? NO they didn't, it's out of YOUR own self-will. Just like drinking...did alcohol tell you to do it? Did alcohol make you do it? No you do it out of YOUR own self-will.
So yeah I just so happened to stumble onto this page because I am doing some research and the controversy that is “My Space†and after reading these postings I simply had to put my two cents in and simply say that I have to completely 110% agree with “MikeT†and state that I find it completely perplexing how it is that some people dare to disagree it is true that teens once they reach the age of 13 are completely capable of making their own decisions at least I know that I was capable of doing so and also that if a teen is harmed in anyway by means of My Space it is not for My Space to be held responsible they do on multiple occasions caution those using the site to be careful and not to post information that could in anyways cause them to be hurt and if it’s the teens choice not to adhere to those advisements then they should me mature enough to deal with the consequences that arise from not following the warning!
LaurenLouise, I couldn't help but notice that in your comment on April 27, 2006, while criticising students on their lack of English skills, you spelled "punctuation" wrong.
i just wanna say, its fairly obvious that you do bleed for these children, and what u want more than anything is to face the reality of the problem, instead of the hunky dory fluff and bunnies solutions we so adhere to in this society. to tell you the truth in my wandering on the internet ive come across many young girls in a situation asking for such things from those around them, and ive done my best to be there for them so that some perverse creepy old man doesnt get there. but eventually, the society of todays bears down and says "you gotta have fun, while you still have an excuse". i agree that parents have a degree of ability to hold thier kids back, but as you said "back in the old days" the reality was more of a peer pressure to be good or "normal" or w/e u wanna call it. the pathetic thing is we are so naive about such things our 14 year old daughters can get on at the library should we push too hard against thier "freedoms".
i think what we honestly need is people willing to speak the truth, and not the sugar coated candy truth, the blunt honest and yes "its your fault" truth. because when we dont have those truths in life, we make up our own. rules in general become hindering, and not freeing like thier meant to be. advice becomes "blowhard" complex instead of knowledge. and safety becomes oppresive. even love, becomes about sex. when none of these things, where ever meant to be even remotely these things.
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I agree with you in some sense - if you put personal stuff on Myspace, then you're at risk.
In this day and age EVERYONE should know that if you are in a chat room or a social networking site like Myspace, and someone asks you to send pictures of yourself, or asks you to meet up (who you do not know) you don't - it's common sense!
I am only 16, and I don't agree with what some people in this have been saying about teenagers being stupid. I have had a Myspace account for nearrly two years now. Admittidly, alot of the girls on there, aged 13 - 16, do dress like sluts. This isn't being sexist, it's the truth.
Try living in a college town, going past a girl in a tight mini-skirt and top, thinking she's gotta be at least 18, only to find out that she's probably 11 when you see her from the front. It is creepy in ways that I don't want to think about. Parents really do not care anymore that they are making it a legal and moral minefield for young men these days.
In the town I live in there is a nightclub open every Friday and Saturday night.
Me and my mates will be down the park playing football or something, suddenly, a load of 12,13, and 14 year old girls, drunk, of course, wearing the shortest short shorts and tight top, most of which are overweight, will come screaming down the road thinking they are attractive. It's ridiculous
By the way, I have been reading some of your other stuff. Its really good.
well we totally agree with u MAYNEEEE :]
i mean my homieee shizzle! its the teens fault for putting useless jive on therr :] so yea holla bac foool :]
PEACE.
DYLCRAMMIE MATZCKARD :]
Wellllll...
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and for you all you pedophiles, YOU MAKE ME SICK.
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fuck.
thanks for your time.
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i hate you anonomous!!!!!!!!!!!
i think youre gay
myspace is amazing.
like we said before,
if youre stupid enough to be a cyberslut
then don't come complaining to me when you get raped!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fuck.
F U C K.
i love myspace
who gives a flying fuck if you love myspace.
i love to rape little kids.
are you kidding me.
thats why your a bitch.
pedophiles are the shit.
unlike you little prick.
whoever crammie dickard and calyn marshieterio is.
fuck yourselves.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCCCCCK YOU!!!!!!
and ill rape you.
up the asshole.
yeah its me again slutbag.
i seriously wanna rape you up the asshole.
FUCCCKKK ME NOW.
i hope you read this.
so then you know that PPEDOPHILES RULLLEEEE.
and cyber slut. omg dont even get me started.
two word;
skeet skeet.
all day long. and all night.
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FUCK MEEE.
no better ill fuck you!:)
okay? orgy party!!!!