This is one of those rare, but beautiful things that happens on a forum. A total ass kicking on Slashdot:
Dude, don't categorically deny someone's assertion then go off on unrelated tangents to support your bogus view. Why don't you just say what you mean "DaTS RACIST!!!11"
Until 9/11 the biggest act of terror committed on US soil was the Oklahoma City bombing, committed by a right wing white supremacist. The act of terror that caused greatest loss of life in Europe is still the Bolgona railway station bombing perpetrated by a neo-facist right wing group.
Those are incidents. Not a count of terrorists. Those two incidents were done by a handful of people. But, that's not what's getting counted here is it. So it means nothing and supports nothing of your "your wrong, neener neener neener" type comment. If you had a magic filter, could line all the terrorists up, and count them. Most are islamic. Sure, most islamic terrorists are also pretty incompetent if you line up the piss-ass car bombs vs. OKC (a marvelous demonstration of American "can-do" attitude).
The PLO was secular
Again, so what? Or are you trying to say the PALISTINE LIBERATION ORGANIZATION is a bunch of Catholic terrorists? Wiccans maybe? Oh, so their stated purpose was secular, something about having a separate Palestine, but when that was offered they switched back to "da Jooos did it to us!!!11" That's not secular, that's just more plain muslem asshattery.
Most religious terrorism is sectarian, Catholics against Protestants, Protestants against Catholics, Sunni against Shi'ia, Shi'ia against Sunnis.
And, if you take all the "secretarian terrorists" (as you call them) and count them up, you get a few christians, some undeclared, and a whole metric assload of muslems. Again, irrelevant and not supporting your point. Which is what? Just rag on someone because you don't want pointing out the fact that most people making terrorist attacks are muslems? Face it, motherfucker, aside from the little war the US started, muslems are the ones blowing civilians up on daily basis.
And since we are on the subject of terrorism, what do you call a government that employs torture, detention without trial, starts wars, disregards international law and treaties? Perhaps the term is not terrorist, but the corrupt crew are still a bunch of totally evil bastards regardless.
That's fascism, idiot.
I am about as liberal as they come and hate the bush regime as much as anyone can, but man your twisted pile of shit mascaraeding as fact really pisses me off. Do me a favor, get your stupid ass off my side, you aren't helping do anything except give the Bill O'reilly fanboys an easy target.
I saw that and knew that I had to share it and save it for posterity.
Heh, it was well done, eh?
Not only kicked his arse but handed it to him in a bucket...
Or on a silver platter, neatly prepared.
Without bothering to read the link, I am going to guess that the guy still wouldn't concede the fight. At least, that IS how things usually work online. Sometimes they shut up but most times not.
Yes, that was indeed entertaining.
Oh, one pet peeve: fascism is a LEFTIST ideology. Right wingers believe in a small government with limited powers (not to mention an armed citizenry).
Just sayin'...
The problem with Fascism is that it is a right-wing compromise with Socialism. It is technically to the right of State Socialism, however it bears very little in common with (classical) liberalism which is what American conservative at least used to be based on a long time ago.
I would say that many American conservatives today are "benevolent fascists." They agree with many of the planks of Italian Fascism, it's just that they are not violent or totalitarian about it per se. Part of what made me come to this realization is realizing that if the American Revolution were to happen today, a very large majority of the American right would not support it and would actively call for its leaders to hang.
Sorry Mike but I don't see the right wing part of it. Fascism's origins are socialist and the ideology itself exhibits no right wing elements.
Fascism is a compromise between Socialism and Capitalism, Pablo. It was created because many Italian Socialists realized that Socialism as envisioned in the 19th century didn't work, and that capitalism does! Around the turn of the 20th century, Marxism was in dire straights because far from facing its "historically inevitable collapse," Capitalism was thriving and Socialism looked more and more like bullshit. Therefore some of them broke away, revised the ideology and made a new version that could work.
Note, though, that I said that Fascism is "to the Right of Socialism." I DID NOT say that it is "right wing" except to that is a "right wing compromise with Socialism." Forgive me if you think that is sloppy English, as what I was getting at is that it was a compromise with Socialism that would be amenable to many illiberal elements of the right wing, like many social conservatives.
If you look at American politics, Pablo, you will notice that many social conservatives are actually quite hostile toward free market economics on most issues. In fact, one of our more disturbing trends is the tendency of social conservatives to actually call the free market a source of immorality that must be heavily regulated for the morality of the public.
**Update**: One more thing, just so we're clear. I'm not saying "conservative=fascist." I'm saying that many "conservatives" are actually "fascists."